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		<title>By: Choosing Finger Cymbals &#124; Belly Dance News &#38; Events - Gilded Serpent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Choosing Finger Cymbals &#124; Belly Dance News &#38; Events - Gilded Serpent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 03:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to the elastic on the underside of the cymbal) to make them more stable. I highly recommend the Zill Speak and Sagat Speak instructional CDs by Artemis and Yasmin for specifics on how to play either [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to the elastic on the underside of the cymbal) to make them more stable. I highly recommend the Zill Speak and Sagat Speak instructional CDs by Artemis and Yasmin for specifics on how to play either [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Drumming for Bellydancers and Bellydance Drumming Wannabes &#124; Belly Dance News &#38; Events - Gilded Serpent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drumming for Bellydancers and Bellydance Drumming Wannabes &#124; Belly Dance News &#38; Events - Gilded Serpent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 22:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 12-13-09 Two Finger Cymbal Products reviewed: Belly Dancing Book &amp; Kit Zill Speak, CD and Booklet by Art... Reviewed by Surreyya The finger cymbals: The cheapest money can buy, likely made by orphaned children in a third world country, yet an exceptional value for $9 at Borders books. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 12-13-09 Two Finger Cymbal Products reviewed: Belly Dancing Book &amp; Kit Zill Speak, CD and Booklet by Art&#8230; Reviewed by Surreyya The finger cymbals: The cheapest money can buy, likely made by orphaned children in a third world country, yet an exceptional value for $9 at Borders books. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: LynetteSerpent</title>
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		<dc:creator>LynetteSerpent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 23:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This review and its background story highlight important issues in our community:
--The need for unsentimental critique,
--accepting critique graciously,
--the growth of a community and its changing needs, 
 --safety issues, 
--how the general public sees BD and how we feed into stereotypes or not, 
--Now much is fame worth?
--Pirating- photo, products, text.  How does it feel when its done to us?
-- copyright  and other legal issues
--Honoring our mentors
Thanks for the discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This review and its background story highlight important issues in our community:<br />
&#8211;The need for unsentimental critique,<br />
&#8211;accepting critique graciously,<br />
&#8211;the growth of a community and its changing needs, <br />
 &#8211;safety issues,<br />
&#8211;how the general public sees BD and how we feed into stereotypes or not,<br />
&#8211;Now much is fame worth?<br />
&#8211;Pirating- photo, products, text.  How does it feel when its done to us?<br />
&#8211; copyright  and other legal issues<br />
&#8211;Honoring our mentors<br />
Thanks for the discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: sherry Jeffries</title>
		<link>http://www.gildedserpent.com/cms/2009/12/13/surreyyareviews2zilproducts/comment-page-1/#comment-710</link>
		<dc:creator>sherry Jeffries</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 18:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am happy the way the kit turned out.  I figure all things that brings light to the belly dance community can&#039;t be wrong.  The MudPuddle publishers have been very nice to me and do a great job distributing the kit.  It can mostly be found at Borders books, has a low price which makes it affordable, and is a fun way to just take a look at belly dance moves and old time music.  So for the price, I think they did a good job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am happy the way the kit turned out.  I figure all things that brings light to the belly dance community can&#8217;t be wrong.  The MudPuddle publishers have been very nice to me and do a great job distributing the kit.  It can mostly be found at Borders books, has a low price which makes it affordable, and is a fun way to just take a look at belly dance moves and old time music.  So for the price, I think they did a good job.</p>
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		<title>By: Shira</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 19:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, I found a link to one of those stock photo web sites that sells that photo of Rachel:  http://www.fotosearch.com/BDX329/bxp59830/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, I found a link to one of those stock photo web sites that sells that photo of Rachel:  <a href="http://www.fotosearch.com/BDX329/bxp59830/" rel="nofollow">http://www.fotosearch.com/BDX329/bxp59830/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Shira</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 16:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have not seen the complete kit, but I am familiar with Sherry&#039;s book.  I posted a review of it on my web site in 2003, shortly after Sherry self-published the original book.  My review can be found at http://www.shira.net/books/breviews/jeffries-nefertiti-presents.htm

In reading Sureyya&#039;s review, I&#039;m thinking she&#039;s not aware of the fact that several years ago Rachel Brice did some modeling for a photographer, and signed a model release authorizing that photographer to sell the photos he took of her to any idiot that wants to use them.  Her photos can be purchased through &quot;stock photography&quot; services, and the model release that she signed means this can be done without her knowledge or approval of how these photos might be used.  It&#039;s obvious to me that the commercial publisher who released Sherry&#039;s book as part of this kit simply purchased one of those photos from the stock photography service, and neither Rachel nor Sherry had anything to say about it.

I think it&#039;s a shame that the publisher used Rachel&#039;s photo for the cover instead of one of the photos of Nefertiti.  It deceives potential buyers by misrepresenting the 1970&#039;s-era contents of the book, and it also detracts from Sherry&#039;s original purpose in creating the book, that of honoring her mother.

I was dismayed to discover that this unscrupulous publisher has plagiarized me!  Compare the first paragraph of the &quot;Summary&quot; part of my 2003 review (at the above link) with the &quot;Product Description&quot; that appears on the page of Amazon.com that sells this book!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have not seen the complete kit, but I am familiar with Sherry&#8217;s book.  I posted a review of it on my web site in 2003, shortly after Sherry self-published the original book.  My review can be found at <a href="http://www.shira.net/books/breviews/jeffries-nefertiti-presents.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.shira.net/books/breviews/jeffries-nefertiti-presents.htm</a></p>
<p>In reading Sureyya&#8217;s review, I&#8217;m thinking she&#8217;s not aware of the fact that several years ago Rachel Brice did some modeling for a photographer, and signed a model release authorizing that photographer to sell the photos he took of her to any idiot that wants to use them.  Her photos can be purchased through &#8220;stock photography&#8221; services, and the model release that she signed means this can be done without her knowledge or approval of how these photos might be used.  It&#8217;s obvious to me that the commercial publisher who released Sherry&#8217;s book as part of this kit simply purchased one of those photos from the stock photography service, and neither Rachel nor Sherry had anything to say about it.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s a shame that the publisher used Rachel&#8217;s photo for the cover instead of one of the photos of Nefertiti.  It deceives potential buyers by misrepresenting the 1970&#8242;s-era contents of the book, and it also detracts from Sherry&#8217;s original purpose in creating the book, that of honoring her mother.</p>
<p>I was dismayed to discover that this unscrupulous publisher has plagiarized me!  Compare the first paragraph of the &#8220;Summary&#8221; part of my 2003 review (at the above link) with the &#8220;Product Description&#8221; that appears on the page of Amazon.com that sells this book!</p>
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		<title>By: sherry Jeffries</title>
		<link>http://www.gildedserpent.com/cms/2009/12/13/surreyyareviews2zilproducts/comment-page-1/#comment-706</link>
		<dc:creator>sherry Jeffries</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 01:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My pleasure!  If you have any other question just e-mail me or comment and I&#039;ll do what I can to answer them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My pleasure!  If you have any other question just e-mail me or comment and I&#8217;ll do what I can to answer them.</p>
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		<title>By: LynetteSerpent</title>
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		<dc:creator>LynetteSerpent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 01:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HI Sherry,
Thanks for the note and leaving a comment. A review is a critique and essential to the growth of any arts community.  So please don&#039;t be upet with the reviewer. She did what I asked her to do! There was nothing in the products to give us any indication to the back story.  Having this additonal history now available to the community is incredibly valuable!  We can now connect the 2 versions of the book and know that this book wasn&#039;t fabricated by an outside publishing company like some pretty boy band meant for tweens.  Instead its intention was  in honor of your mother, a pioneer in our community!  I hope we will now hear more from you about her.  We have an additional resource page on books that will soon be available that will help us put books like this in the context of the times that they were originally created.  Thanks again Sherry and to Surreyya too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HI Sherry,<br />
Thanks for the note and leaving a comment. A review is a critique and essential to the growth of any arts community.  So please don&#8217;t be upet with the reviewer. She did what I asked her to do! There was nothing in the products to give us any indication to the back story.  Having this additonal history now available to the community is incredibly valuable!  We can now connect the 2 versions of the book and know that this book wasn&#8217;t fabricated by an outside publishing company like some pretty boy band meant for tweens.  Instead its intention was  in honor of your mother, a pioneer in our community!  I hope we will now hear more from you about her.  We have an additional resource page on books that will soon be available that will help us put books like this in the context of the times that they were originally created.  Thanks again Sherry and to Surreyya too!</p>
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		<title>By: sherry Jeffries</title>
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		<dc:creator>sherry Jeffries</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 00:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am the author of the Nefertiti presents, Belly Dancing the basics and owner of the Nefertiti presents, the Best of Belly Dance CD sold in the Belly Dance Book and Kit.  
 
I made this book as a tribute to my mother who died in 1999.  She opened the first belly dance studio in Phoenix about 1974 and had it open until 1980.  I grew up learning to belly dance.  When she was sick and dying I found a stack of pictures which I knew were going to be used to write a small book.  So I took her pictures and made the book for her.  These pictures were take in the 1970&#039;s.  The book is made with her picture (Nefertiti) not with Rachael Brice&#039;s picture.  She also had the ALBUM, which I had digitally re-engineered to become a CD.  On the CD, it gives all the information about the musicians.  The songs on the ALBUM were all together in two routines with two small songs also.  So I broke the tracks to create individual tracks.  However there is NO information on what songs they are, or anything on the ALBUM, so I had no way of putting the information on the CD.  And yes, it was recorded in a very small studio here in Phoenix with 4 musicians.  Not a large production.  
 
A publisher (Mud Puddle) asked me to use the rights of the book and CD to make a kit.  The first run of the kit has some very good zills, however the last two runs, they put cheaper and cheaper zills in it.  It was a total surprise to me that they put Rachael Brice&#039;s picture on it.  I had signed an agreement that they could change the cover and the layout, mine is a landscape 8 1/2 x 11 inch book with my mothers picture on it. But I never knew they were going to use somebody else picture. I only get $0.20 cents per sell of the kit.  But I could NEVER have afforded to make my own, plus it is very difficult to get books distributed to book stores.  I only sell mine at Amazon.com.  See link at the bottom of this.
 
Now, you must remember this book represents the way they taught in the 1970s.  We were all taught to do the turkish drop.  It was a normal part of the routine.  This is for nostalgia.  We used to dance 40 minutes at a time, not the 5 to 10 minutes like today.
 
Also the wording is from the 1970&#039;s and that is the way it was taught.  These younger people who now have a standard language for shoulder shimmy&#039;s (slow and fast) don&#039;t get the idea that we didn&#039;t.  We called it a bust shake.  
 
There was only these few pictures to work with, and this is strictly for fun.  I was never meant to be a total program to learn from.  

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/Nefertiti-Presents-Belly-Dancing-Basics/dp/1591961181/ref=cm_cr_dp_orig_subj&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.amazon.com/Nefertiti-Presents-Belly-Dancing-Basics/dp/1591961181/ref=cm_cr_dp_orig_subj&lt;/a&gt;
 
And get this, they even spelled my name wrong, Sherry Jeffries</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am the author of the Nefertiti presents, Belly Dancing the basics and owner of the Nefertiti presents, the Best of Belly Dance CD sold in the Belly Dance Book and Kit.  </p>
<p>I made this book as a tribute to my mother who died in 1999.  She opened the first belly dance studio in Phoenix about 1974 and had it open until 1980.  I grew up learning to belly dance.  When she was sick and dying I found a stack of pictures which I knew were going to be used to write a small book.  So I took her pictures and made the book for her.  These pictures were take in the 1970&#8242;s.  The book is made with her picture (Nefertiti) not with Rachael Brice&#8217;s picture.  She also had the ALBUM, which I had digitally re-engineered to become a CD.  On the CD, it gives all the information about the musicians.  The songs on the ALBUM were all together in two routines with two small songs also.  So I broke the tracks to create individual tracks.  However there is NO information on what songs they are, or anything on the ALBUM, so I had no way of putting the information on the CD.  And yes, it was recorded in a very small studio here in Phoenix with 4 musicians.  Not a large production.  </p>
<p>A publisher (Mud Puddle) asked me to use the rights of the book and CD to make a kit.  The first run of the kit has some very good zills, however the last two runs, they put cheaper and cheaper zills in it.  It was a total surprise to me that they put Rachael Brice&#8217;s picture on it.  I had signed an agreement that they could change the cover and the layout, mine is a landscape 8 1/2 x 11 inch book with my mothers picture on it. But I never knew they were going to use somebody else picture. I only get $0.20 cents per sell of the kit.  But I could NEVER have afforded to make my own, plus it is very difficult to get books distributed to book stores.  I only sell mine at Amazon.com.  See link at the bottom of this.</p>
<p>Now, you must remember this book represents the way they taught in the 1970s.  We were all taught to do the turkish drop.  It was a normal part of the routine.  This is for nostalgia.  We used to dance 40 minutes at a time, not the 5 to 10 minutes like today.</p>
<p>Also the wording is from the 1970&#8242;s and that is the way it was taught.  These younger people who now have a standard language for shoulder shimmy&#8217;s (slow and fast) don&#8217;t get the idea that we didn&#8217;t.  We called it a bust shake.  </p>
<p>There was only these few pictures to work with, and this is strictly for fun.  I was never meant to be a total program to learn from.  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Nefertiti-Presents-Belly-Dancing-Basics/dp/1591961181/ref=cm_cr_dp_orig_subj" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/Nefertiti-Presents-Belly-Dancing-Basics/dp/1591961181/ref=cm_cr_dp_orig_subj</a></p>
<p>And get this, they even spelled my name wrong, Sherry Jeffries</p>
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		<title>By: More Fans, More Veils&#8230; &#124; Belly Dance News &#38; Events - Gilded Serpent</title>
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		<dc:creator>More Fans, More Veils&#8230; &#124; Belly Dance News &#38; Events - Gilded Serpent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 04:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 12-13-09 Two Finger Cymbal Products reviewed: Belly Dancing Book &amp; Kit Zill Speak, CD and Booklet by Art... Reviewed by Surreyya  The finger cymbals: The cheapest money can buy, likely made by orphaned children in a third world country, yet an exceptional value for $9 at Borders books. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 12-13-09 Two Finger Cymbal Products reviewed: Belly Dancing Book &amp; Kit Zill Speak, CD and Booklet by Art&#8230; Reviewed by Surreyya  The finger cymbals: The cheapest money can buy, likely made by orphaned children in a third world country, yet an exceptional value for $9 at Borders books. [...]</p>
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