{"id":1319,"date":"2010-03-18T11:17:25","date_gmt":"2010-03-18T18:17:25","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/cms\/?p=1319"},"modified":"2010-03-18T11:17:25","modified_gmt":"2010-03-18T18:17:25","slug":"brigid-saiidi-new-zealand","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/cms\/2010\/03\/18\/brigid-saiidi-new-zealand\/","title":{"rendered":"<h3>Not Last Year\u2019s Saiidi<\/h3>"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"topphoto\">\n<h6 align=\"center\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/art49\/graphics49\/Brtalakik.jpg\" alt=\"Zumarrad performs Hadia's saidi-styled choreography Talakik about 2004\" width=\"300\" height=\"540\" \/><br \/>\nZumarrad performs <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/aboutuspages\/hadia.html\">Hadia<\/a>&#8216;s saidi-styled<br \/>\nchoreography Talakik about 2004<\/h6>\n<\/div>\n<h3>by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/aboutuspages\/zumarrad.html\">Brigid Kelly \/ Zumarrad<\/a><br \/>\n<span class=\"footnotes\">posted March 17, 2010<\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Recently, a  belly dance community newsletter here in New Zealand ran an editorial in which the author remarked that the current generation of dancers still perform \u201ctraditional styles \u2013 Ghwazee, Khaleegy, Saiidi\u201d but innovate with poi, fan veils and Isis wings in a sort of dance evolution that retains respect for the value of the old.  \u201cStagnation awaits that which cannot change,\u201d she continued, \u201cThe past is fixed, static, unchangeable, but the dance is not.\u201d <\/p>\n<p> <img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/art49\/graphics49\/NZmap.jpg\" alt=\"New Zealand\" width=\"104\" height=\"146\" align=\"left\" \/>Something about these quite valid and respectful statements did not sit right with me&#8211;and not just because I perform what the uninitiated might call \u201ca traditional Belly dance&quot;. I began picking apart concepts of the old, the traditional, and (particularly) from the past. What is traditional anyway? Why might we assume that \u201ctraditional styles\u201d are locked in a static past, pointless unless we enliven them with fan veils? Is the past truly incapable of flexibility? <\/p>\n<p> I don\u2019t think so. Here\u2019s why: <br \/>\nI started belly dancing in New Zealand in 1998. (New Zealand, for those of you who haven\u2019t been here, is a string of islands to the right of Australia and left of Chile.) Belly dance probably arrived here in the mid-70s. For a full 25 years, we had very few resources at our fingertips, but by 2000, when we began to use the Internet widely, things had progressed merely to the point where you saved all your dance dollars to spend at one festival, where you could buy music, zills, beaded fringe and hip scarves. If you wanted them at any other time, you were out of luck for the most part. There might be only one international teacher visiting in any one year. When you outgrew the MEDANZ festival\u2019s dance offerings, you started looking at the one in Sydney, or the Brisbane Winter Warmup, just a three to four hour flight, a time zone shift and a stronger currency away. So, our access to resources and new developments had remained limited. <\/p>\n<p class=\"highlight\"> My teacher, Gendi,  felt it was vital for any Oriental dancer to study folkloric dances. I can remember when she introduced Saiidi style to our class. Much of what I learned from her back then, 10 or 11 years ago, remains ingrained in my body memory of what it is one does to saiidi music. Certain Saiidi audio tracks take me back to my very earliest belly dance lessons. I can see the mirror reflections, the glowing wall heaters (it was autumn), and our scarved hips moving in unison. <\/p>\n<p> The thing is, Saiidi has changed since then. <\/p>\n<table width=\"230\" border=\"0\" align=\"left\" cellpadding=\"0\" cellspacing=\"0\">\n<tr>\n<td>\n<div align=\"center\">\n<h6><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/art49\/graphics49\/Brgendi1.jpg\" alt=\"Gendi of New Zealand\" width=\"216\" height=\"402\" \/><br \/>\nZumarrad&#8217;s first teacher Gendi,<br \/>\nwho introduced her to saiidi dance.<\/h6>\n<\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<p>Since those first lessons, which were very<a href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/art43\/cebdrmo.htm\"> <span class=\"artist\">Mo Geddawi<\/span><\/a>-influenced, I\u2019ve studied Saiidi with Dr. Mo myself. I\u2019ve seen and learned Saiidi dances by other Egyptian dancers with a greater or lesser degree of <span class=\"artist\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/art32\/rockyredainterviewp1.htm\">Reda<\/a><\/span> background, and these dances are not the same as what we learned back then. They are more complex, they have more movement combinations, they seem lighter and they\u2019re definitely more physically challenging. However, they are still \u201cSaiidi.\u201d <\/p>\n<p> To many dancers whose first love is fusion belly dance, what I do this year as \u201cSaiidi\u201d is considered traditional because it\u2019s danced to Middle Eastern music with a Saiidi rhythm, and canes are involved. However, to me and to other dancers who\u2019ve studied folklore for years, it\u2019s a new, fresh, vibrant take on the dance from the Saiid. That\u2019s the same whether the dance is a recent choreography or an old Reda one we never had the opportunity to learn before. So, for us, the past is not static and neither are its dances. <\/p>\n<p> When I wrote my thesis on belly dance in New Zealand in 2007-2008, I developed a concept of belly dance as globalised and contextual. As I tried to look past everything I knew to find the local, the things that made belly dance here in New Zealand unique, I realised that I was looking at it from the wrong perspective. <\/p>\n<p class=\"highlight\"> Belly dance here is not the tip of a branch from a distant root. Belly dance here in New Zealand is almost exactly the same as it is in every other country to which it is not native. <\/p>\n<p> Kiwi belly dancers are participants in a portable, synthetic culture with its own myths, tensions, and traditions \u2013 a culture held together by lessons, haflas, costume sales, festivals, shows, DVD purchases, etc. What makes us different are the effects on globalised belly dance culture of our own wider social contexts. In New Zealand, that includes geographic isolation (but a culturally sanctioned willingness to travel internationally), a very small Middle Eastern population, and high technological uptake. <\/p>\n<p> In places where belly dance is culturally normative, the elements of globalised belly dance are not integral to the belly dance experience, but that doesn\u2019t mean they are unaffected by, or don\u2019t affect, globalised belly dance. Egyptian dancers (and teachers in particular) have become actively involved, touring internationally, producing their own festivals and adapting their work to the needs of the globalised belly dance market. Most of these people are typical performing artists. They like to create and innovate. They like to dance to new songs. They like to &quot;mix it up a little&quot;. <\/p>\n<p class=\"highlight\"> They need to differentiate their product, because what they have is a product being sold, and because they have the kind of visceral musical, cultural, and kinaesthetic understanding that I don\u2019t, they can do it without losing the integrity of the form, in my view. <\/p>\n<p> I know some dancers bemoan the influence of the workshop circuit on Egyptian master teachers (and, doubtless, Turkish master teachers and Tribal-style master teachers too), seeing it as diluting the essence of the original dance forms, but to me, the quest for authenticity will never be fully achieved if we continue to locate it solely in the past. Traditional belly dance and folklore are living, growing things and shouldn\u2019t be condemned to the museum cabinet. <\/p>\n<table width=\"300\" border=\"0\" align=\"right\" cellpadding=\"0\" cellspacing=\"0\">\n<tr>\n<td>\n<h6 align=\"center\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/art49\/graphics49\/brnar.jpg\" alt=\"New Zealand dancers learning Cassandra Shore's saidi-styled choreography Nar at Oasis Dance Camp Aotearoa in 2007\" width=\"395\" height=\"173\" \/><br \/>\nNew Zealand dancers  learning Cassandra Shore&#8217;s saiidi-styled <br \/>\nchoreography Nar at Oasis Dance Camp  Aotearoa in 2007<\/h6>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<p> However, even the museum cabinet is changing. Thanks to the Internet and, especially, YouTube, my vision of how belly dance existed in certain past time periods has changed, because I can now see so much more of it. Instead of that one <span class=\"artist\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/art38\/LeilaIdanceUfollow.htm\">Suhair Zaki<\/a><\/span> dance in the blue assuit on the little round platforms, there are many Suhair Zaki dances to see. Suhair, the dancer and entertainer, is becoming more rounded and complex for me. She has become more than a series of chonks [moves] and a sweet smile. How can I think I \u201cknow\u201d Oriental dance and be bored with it when there is so much more to learn within the Egyptian canon alone? It\u2019s not static. I\u2019m finding more and more new knowledge as I continue to mine the \u201ctraditional&quot;. I see reflections of older dancers in the very newest ones, and I think it is because they also return, periodically, to images, sounds, steps, shapes they see on TV or hear in music collections. <\/p>\n<p class=\"highlight\">If young western rock bands today find freshness in the very sounds that seemed new to me and my friends 30 years ago, I can\u2019t see why Egyptian dancers and musicians wouldn\u2019t do the same. The past is always informing the present, or it should be. <\/p>\n<p> When I hear &quot;Salam Allay&quot; and my mind and body flash back to those autumn evenings in my teacher\u2019s studio, I feel the pleasure of that time and those movements, but simultaneously, I cannot separate the memory from the developments that have come since then. The past does change, and it will change again tomorrow. What we produce from it is not pure artifact but a synthesis of what we saw and did, and what we see and do. It is old and new at the same time. <\/p>\n<p> Fan veils? They are merely whipped cream on the side&#8211;not an improved recipe for the cake.<\/p>\n<h6 align=\"center\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/art49\/graphics49\/brshaatmat.jpg\" alt=\"Shaatmat\" width=\"500\" height=\"323\" \/><br \/>\nLeft to right:  Bernie. Perizada, Zumarrad and Linda dance Yurie&#8217;s choreography to Sha&#8217;at Mat  in 2003.<\/h6>\n<p align=\"left\"><span class=\"company\">more resouces:<\/span><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/aboutuspages\/zumarrad.html\">Author&#8217;s bio page on Gilded Serpent<\/a> &#8211; <em>Brigid will also be presenting at the International Bellydance Conference of Canada in April 2010<\/em><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.medanz.org.nz\/index.html\" target=\"_blank\">MEDANZ festival<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.winterwarmup.com.au\/\" target=\"_blank\">Brisbane Winter Warmup<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/archives\/GoldGeo.htm\">GS list of articles from around the planet<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/graphics\/acommentbox.jpg\" alt=\"use the comment box\" align=\"right\" \/><\/p>\n<div class=\"ready4more\">\n<p>Have a comment? Use or comment section at the bottom of this page or<a href=\"mailto:editor@gildedserpent.com\">Send us a letter!<\/a> <br \/>\nCheck the &quot;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/let2ed.htm\">Letters to the Editor<\/a>&quot; for other possible viewpoints!<\/p>\n<p>Ready for more?<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><!--end ready4more --><\/p>\n<div class=\"articlelist\">\n<ul>\n<li><strong>3-2-10 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/cms\/2010\/03\/02\/hadia-egyptian-oriental-dance\/\">Latest Craze- Egyptian Oriental Dance, The Fitness Benefits of Our Dance<\/a> by Hadia<\/strong><br \/>\nThis is a fabulous idea, except for the very important and primary fact that the majority of efforts in this direction have attempted to fit this archetype of feminine activity into the current prevailing masculine model of linear strengthening and tightening, complete with fitness speak, crunches, squats and sweat!<\/li>\n<li> <span class=\"articledate\">4-24-09 <\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/cms\/2009\/04\/24\/ramonaoasissouth\/\">Oasis Dance Camp South A New Twist on an Established Retreat<\/a> <span class=\"articleauthor\">by\tRamona<\/span><br \/>\nEvery student received a personalized notebook and music CD, which included\tclass notes and news articles about dance and culture. <\/li>\n<li><strong><b>2-6-08 <a href=\"http:\/\/gildedserpent.com\/art42\/KetishariSaudiband.htm\">The Secret of Saiidi Song and Dance-Straight from the Horse&#8217;s Mouth<\/a> by Keti Sharif<br \/>\n<\/b><\/strong>&quot;Saiidi&quot;.Say this word anywhere in Egypt (including El Saiid) and colloquially it implies someone who is funny, backward &#8211; a loveable, gullible character with salt-of-the-earth<br \/>\nvillage simplicity. To call someone &#8220;Saiidi&#8221; is a local term or endearment for a likeable buffoon! <\/li>\n<li><strong>1-12-05<a href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/art29\/perizadfaridareview.htm\"> Farida Fahmy Workshop<\/a> review by Perizad <br \/>\n<\/strong>What you know, leave at the front desk in a little bag.<\/li>\n<li><span class=\"articledate\">8-23-07<\/span> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/art41\/paolarootsraqs.htm\">Roots Raqs &#8211; An International Belly Dancer Goes Home to Macedonia<\/a> <span class=\"articleauthor\">by Paola <\/span><em><br \/>\n<\/em>The musical folklore of this region deserves full debut in the World Music scene, and those of us in the MED community worldwide are ripe\tfor the breath of fresh air that Chochek and Gypsy Brass Music can bring us. It is an original, organic and time-honored fusion, brought about by history, geography, and most importantly, tolerance and mutual cultural celebration<\/li>\n<li><strong>7-31-06 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/art36\/TrisnaAussitourP1.htm\">From the Land Down-under, Part I: The Festival<\/a> by Trisnasari of Melbourne, Australia<br \/>\n<\/strong>In the wings, before we hit the festival stage, Andrea whispered to Mel and I, &#8220;Well, this is our first international performance!&#8221; <\/li>\n<li><strong><b>3-14-06 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/art35\/SamiyaAussieWorkshop.htm\">Hosting Australia&#8217;s Leonie and Alpen Sukan<\/a> by Samiya <br \/>\n<\/b><\/strong>What was going to be another dance choreography workshop weekend turned into a weekend of dancing and drumming. It is now over year later, and people are still talking about that weekend.<\/li>\n<li><b><strong>9-25-04 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/art28\/ramzytour2003.htm\">The Ramzy Tour of 2003<\/a>, photos provided by Hossam and Serena<br \/>\n<\/strong><\/b>Photos from:Brazil, Brisbane, MaryBorough, Wellington, London, Singapore and Tibet? Readers- please help us with matching names to these faces!<\/li>\n<li><strong>3-16-10 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/cms\/2010\/03\/16\/barbara-sellers-young-serena-wilson-part3\/\">Serena Wilson (1933-2007) A Student of Ruth St Denis, Part 3: Serena&#8217;s Books<\/a> by Barbara Sellers-Young<\/strong><br \/>\nSerena\u2019s approach saw women as joyful, soft, and feminine. They were responsible for and in control of their sensuality and by extension their sexuality. The dancers were not encouraged to challenge men by their physical presence, but neither was their physical presence and personal desire controlled by men.<\/li>\n<li><strong>3-12-10<a href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/cms\/2010\/03\/12\/leilacampnegum\"> Creating Camp Negum<\/a> by Leila of Cairo<\/strong><br \/>\nThe idea came to us as we laid on the beach at Ras Sidr, a resort town near Suez on the west coast of the Sinai Peninsula. It was one of those rare times when my husband, Safaa Farid, and I could slip away from work for two days. We were watching the wind surfers and listening to Om Kalthoum on the clubhouse speakers when the question just popped out.<\/li>\n<li><strong>3-10-10 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/cms\/2010\/03\/10\/yasmina-kids-undercutting-kalthoum\">Ask Yasmina #12: The Importance of Oum Kalthoum, Undercutting, and Kid Bellydancers<\/a> by Yasmina Ramzy<\/strong><br \/>\nWhen a client hiring a performer or a student looking for a teacher is at a point where they want quality, they know they have to pay a fair price.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>What makes us different are the effects on globalised belly dance culture of our own wider social contexts. 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