{"id":1861,"date":"2010-09-01T21:50:25","date_gmt":"2010-09-02T04:50:25","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/cms\/?p=1861"},"modified":"2010-09-24T14:45:16","modified_gmt":"2010-09-24T21:45:16","slug":"thalia-panel-theatrical-belly-dance","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/cms\/2010\/09\/01\/thalia-panel-theatrical-belly-dance\/","title":{"rendered":"Expanding Traditional and Innovative Approaches"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"floatright\" src=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/art51\/graphics51\/tbdc10\/panelmorocco4inch.jpg\" alt=\"\" hspace=\"10\" vspace=\"10\" width=\"300\" height=\"200\" \/><\/p>\n<h2>Report from NY Theatrical Belly Dance Conference<br \/>Part 1: The Panel Discussions<\/h2>\n<h3>by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/aboutuspages\/thaliaNY.htm\">Thalia<\/a><br \/>\n<span class=\"footnotes\">posted September ?, 2010<\/span><\/h3>\n<p><em>For the past three years,  dancers <span class=\"artist\">Anasma<\/span> and <span class=\"artist\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/aboutuspages\/RanyaRenee.htm\">Ranya Renee<\/a><\/span> have been developing the <span class=\"company\">New York Theatrical Bellydance Conference<\/span>.  This July, the Conference evolved into a five-day event featuring instructors and speakers from across the United States, Canada, Spain, and Sweden, a full schedule of workshops, panel discussions, three curated programs at the <span class=\"company\">Dance New Amsterdam (DNA) Theater<\/span>, and less formal shows in local nightclubs featuring live music.  The programs at DNA featured solo and company performances aimed to demonstrate a variety of theatrical treatments of belly dance.  Performers included <span class=\"artist\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/Articles1\/daliareview.htm\">Dalia Carella<\/a><\/span> and the <span class=\"company\">Dalia Carella Dance Collective<\/span>, <span class=\"company\">Alchemy Dance Collective<\/span>, <span class=\"artist\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/art42\/betheastwest.htm\">Kaeshi Chai <\/a><\/span>with <span class=\"company\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/art29\/marareviewbqueendvd.htm\">Bellyqueen<\/a><\/span> and <span class=\"artist\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/art36\/DhyanisPURE.htm\">PURE<\/a><\/span>, <span class=\"artist\">Samara<\/span> and her <span class=\"company\">Mosaic Dance Theater Company<\/span>, <span class=\"artist\">Dunya<\/span> and the<span class=\"artist\"> Core Alembic<\/span>, the <span class=\"company\">Not the Jamal Twins<\/span>: <span class=\"artist\">Ranya <\/span>and <span class=\"artist\">Roula<\/span>, <span class=\"artist\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/art40\/LuciaFahtiem.htm\">Fahtiem<\/a><\/span>, and <span class=\"artist\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/art40\/Torontosatstage.htm\">Angelika Nemeth<\/a><\/span>. <\/em><\/p>\n<p> <span class=\"sectiontitle\">What is Theatrical Belly Dance?<\/span><br \/>\nAs with any new label applied to the genre, a question of definition consistently arises from fans and skeptics of the burgeoning theatrical belly dance category.  Wisely, the organizers have incorporated panel discussions in the Conference&#8217;s roster of events since its formation.  Questions engaged have included:  <\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Does belly dance presented as \u201ctheater\u201d require story line or scene?<\/li>\n<li> Is it defined by the physical performance space as the name \u201ctheatrical\u201d denotes?  <\/li>\n<li>Does the label imply more pronounced acting technique or charisma?  <\/li>\n<li>Is choreography required? <\/li>\n<li>Aren\u2019t all belly dance performances theatrical?  <\/li>\n<li>And finally, does theatrical belly dance have to be fusion and contemporary, or are traditional folkloric styles also \u2018theatrical&#8217;?  <\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>According to their stated mission, Ranya Renee and Anasma do not aim to present a single definition for theatrical belly dance but to offer more formal theatrical techniques on a wider scale to those working in the field of belly dance and to open conversation about the evolving classification.<\/p>\n<p class=\"highlight\"> Coining a new label often results in reconsidering the terms of &quot;traditional&quot; belly dance. <\/p>\n<p>Friday\u2019s panel discussion, &quot;Theatrical Bellydance: Tradition versus Fusion,&quot; featuring dancers <span class=\"artist\">Aepril Schaile, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/aboutuspages\/elisheva.htm\">Elisheva<\/a>, Hanan, Dalia Carella<\/span> and <span class=\"artist\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/aboutuspages\/morocco.htm\">Morocco<\/a><\/span> opened this debate.  Responding to a question about the use of narration or story line, Elisheva linked her story-oriented approach in response to a human need to find meaning in experience.  She added that her use of story became more overt when she consciously committed to dance as her professional medium.  Morocco responded by offering a wider, historical context, observing that traditional Middle Eastern dances emerged largely from group dances in communal settings. The rituals or events being recognized provided the meaning, reason, or story behind the dance.  The community provided a specific audience, that understood the context and also provided the physical setting or &quot;performance space.&quot;<\/p>\n<p class=\"highlight\"> In a sense, communal context provided some the \u201ctheatrical\u201d elements that must be applied by the dancer in contemporary dances. <\/p>\n<p> <img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/art49\/graphics49\/Serena\/leMeri.jpg\" alt=\"Le Meri\" width=\"151\" height=\"200\" align=\"right\" \/>After the eventual rise in popularity of solo dancing in Middle Eastern settings, Morocco continued, \u201cmeaning\u201d was evoked primarily through a dancer&#8217;s interpretation and interaction with a song&#8217;s lyrics, meaning that was shared between the performer and audience.  This context and connection is often absent if the dancer doesn\u2019t speak the language.  Another panelist responded that, as a dancer in that very position, creating and implanting her own story or external meaning offers the potential to add a layer of personal authenticity to her work.<\/p>\n<p> To segue into a deeper discussion of fusion, panelists paid tribute to figures who moved traditional dances from communal to more formal stage settings and provided access to folkloric material previously unavailable.  Dalia Carella referenced contributions of American dancer <span class=\"artist\">La Meri<\/span>, who traveled to India extensively in the early 20th century and brought the classical Indian dance form to stages in the United States.  Another panelist spoke of <span class=\"artist\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/art32\/rockyredainterviewp1.htm\">Mahmoud Reda<\/a><\/span>\u2019s treatment and re-envisioning of Egyptian folkloric dances in Egypt during the second half of the 20th century. Validating or elevating the status of belly dance by transferring it onto a formal stage is a goal that often appears in discussions of contemporary styles.  This aim is also to reach a wider audience.  One must ask&#8230;&#8230;<\/p>\n<p class=\"highlight\"> Regarding fusion, all presenters agreed a strong background in both dance styles being fused was necessary to present a grounded and valid fusion.  Morocco referred to what might be her coinage, &quot;fusion versus confusion.&quot;  <\/p>\n<p>Audience members challenged the panelists by asking how a less experienced dancer can be sure he or she has mastered that second form enough to put it onto the stage.  Interestingly, this question revisited the idea of community.  Elisheva stated that learning a new dance form does not always have to result in performance of that form.  Studying a different form helps a dancer see what void needs to be filled in belly dance; seeing what is in the void can initiate creativity or a fusion of ideas.  Panelists agreed that meeting other dancers in different dance communities is one of the most valuable aspects of studying and mastering other forms.  Dance has always drawn people together, in many cases women, to create.<\/p>\n<h6 align=\"center\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/art51\/graphics51\/tbdc10\/panelDalia.jpg\" alt=\"Dalia talks to panel\" width=\"500\" height=\"334\" \/><br \/>\nPanelists (left to right) Dalia Carella,   Hanan, Aepril Schaile, Morocco and Elisheva<br \/> <br \/>\nand moderator Raqsie (Andrea   Muraskin) discuss the topic &quot;Theatrical Bellydance: Tradition vs. Fusion.&quot;<\/p>\n<p>caption for top photo:Morocco relates her experience pioneering bellydance <br \/>and rock n&#8217; roll &quot;fusion&quot; in NYC in the 1970s while  <br \/>  contemporary bellydance fusion artist Elisheva looks on. Moderator Raqsie at right. Photo by Eric Troudt.<\/h6>\n<p class=\"sectiontitle\">The Body as Theatrical Medium<\/p>\n<p> Friday&#8217;s panel, &quot;In Your Own Skin: Presentations of the Body&quot; featured <span class=\"artist\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/cms\/2009\/05\/03\/tracevreviewsensualdvds\/\">Blanca<\/a>, Kaeshi Chai, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/art40\/TorontoFristage.htm\">Roula Said<\/a>, Sarah Johanssen Locke, Zoe Anwar<\/span>, and <span class=\"artist\">Zahava<\/span> and was moderated by <span class=\"artist\">Raqsi (Andrea Muraskin)<\/span>.  After a series of technically oriented questions regarding the importance of posture, body placement, internal awareness, and gender issues (does traditional cabaret dancing get  too &quot;feminine&quot;?). <\/p>\n<p class=\"highlight\">The conversation took a more inquiring turn when the panelists were asked about the complication of dancing for audiences that have cultural or erotic assumptions about a dancer&#8217;s physical appearance.<\/p>\n<p> <span class=\"artist\">Kaeshi Chai<\/span> addressed the thorny issue of performing for audiences who prefer their dancers have a \u201cMiddle Eastern\u201d look.  Chai stated that when she receives such requests, she sends someone who fits the description though surprising an audience that doubts her ability due to her ethnic identity does have some gratification.  <span class=\"artist\">Roula Said<\/span>, who is Palestinian-Canadian, suggested the reverse situation also has drawbacks; some audiences have higher or different standards for dancers who not only have the desired look but are of Middle Eastern descent.<\/p>\n<p> All dance forms experience some form of audience bias, ranging from cultural, aesthetic, and age-related expectations.  What was at issue here, however, was whether or not \u201ctheatrical belly dance\u201d techniques can address these difficulties.  A move from the traditional nightclub setting and audience to a more formal stage could relieve some of these expectations.  In addition, panelists agreed, a dancer&#8217;s intention and personal vision should ideally outweigh expectations from any audience.  <span class=\"artist\">Johanssen Locke<\/span> said that finding a performance venue where a dancer can express her vision authentically is crucial. Panelists agreed that a dancer&#8217;s confidence is ultimately crafted through her time spent in the studio, faith in her art, and her abilities will ideally override her concerns regarding the expectations from he audience.<\/p>\n<p> Conference attendees were not finished discussing cultural dilemmas. <\/p>\n<p>As this panel was wrapping up, an attendee who performs frequently in New York and has traveled in the Middle East, asked the panelists to discuss their experience of dancing for cultures that have a reputation for disregarding a dancer\u2019s reputation as well as her body.  The participant stated that she is not certain she feels comfortable dancing cabaret style for Arab audiences anymore.  This provocative topic, potentially fueled by our own culture\u2019s stereotypes and judgments, was cut off due to time constraint; however, Roula Said pointed out that avoiding Middle Eastern audiences would also rule out a population that can potentially understand the musicality and the subtle nuances a dancer has developed in her dance whether working in traditional or experimental styles. \n<\/p>\n<h4 align=\"center\">Part 2: The Performances<br \/>\n<em>Coming soon!<\/em><\/h4>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/graphics\/acommentbox.jpg\" alt=\"use the comment box\" align=\"right\" \/><\/p>\n<div class=\"ready4more\">\n<p>Have a comment? Use or comment section at the bottom of this page or <a href=\"mailto:editor@gildedserpent.com\">Send us a letter!<\/a> <br \/>\nCheck the &quot;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/let2ed.htm\">Letters to the Editor<\/a>&quot; for other possible viewpoints!<\/p>\n<p>Ready for more?<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><!--end ready4more --><\/p>\n<div class=\"articlelist\">\n<ul>\n<li><span class=\"articleauthor\">1-16-10 <\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/cms\/2010\/01\/16\/thaliamuwashahat\/\">The Muwashahat with Mohamed Shahin and Karim Nagi<\/a><span class=\"articleauthor\"> Workshop review by Thalia<\/span><br \/>\nThe Muwashahat genre is inspired by tenth century court poetry of Arab-Andalusia, developed when Arab intellectual and artistic culture flourished in Spain. The rhythms are complex.<\/li>\n<li><span class=\"articleauthor\">8-12-08<\/span> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/art44\/thaliaorientreview.htm\">Review: &quot;Allure of the East:Orientalism in New York, 1850-1930&quot; at the New York Historical Society<\/a> <span class=\"articleauthor\">by Thalia <\/span><br \/>This  small one-room exhibit with its narrow geographic focus&#8211;the city O. Henry dubbed &#8220;Baghdad-on-the-Subway&#8221;&#8211;presents much for dancers to consider. As belly dance continues to gain popularity, what is this continuing &quot;allure&quot; of the Orientalist inspired arts? When is attraction to this aesthetic drawn from a desire to understand other cultures and when is it driven by desire to market ourselves?<\/li>\n<li><span class=\"articleauthor\">2-13-09<\/span> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/art47\/JenniferNeonTarot.html\">Tarot:A Fantasy Belly Dance Concert<\/a><span class=\"articleauthor\"> by Thalia<\/span><br \/>The large, well rehearsed cast&#8211;musicians, temple maidens, acolytes, and servants with a variety of props&#8211;deftly played up the campy quality of the piece, contrasting the work&#8217;s darker messages about the fickle cycles of gain, loss, and impermanence<\/li>\n<li>5-29-06 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/art36\/DhyanisPURE.htm\">P.U.R.E. Dance<\/a><span class=\"articleauthor\"> by Dhyanis<\/span><br \/>A collective of dancers and drummers plan to take music and dance out into the streets this summer on July 15 in cities across the nation and globe. <\/li>\n<li><b>9-17-08 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/art45\/RanyaBDjapan.htm\">Belly Dance in Japan Reaches New Heights of Popularity<\/a> by Ranya Renee Fleysher<br \/>\n<\/b>Japanese audiences are extremely receptive, supportive and interested in this form of entertainment.&#8221; Conservative elder Japanese may still disapprove of the sensual aspect of belly dance, but among the younger generation it is seen as cool and trendy. <\/li>\n<li>7-12-10 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/cms\/2010\/07\/13\/najia-fusion\/\">Fusion: How much is too much?<\/a><span class=\"articleauthor\"> by Najia Marlyz<\/span><br \/>\nIn America, and evidently elsewhere, we dancers seem to have a voracious appetite for new steps and movements, so like hungry chipmunks, we have grabbed all we could stuff into our cheeks of Turkish and Arabic steps and gestures, resorting to incorporating and mixing of Saidi, Kaleedgi, Blue Guedra, Ghawazi, etc. We\u2019ve chewed all of them up together and spit them out and found that they have not sufficiently nourished us. <\/li>\n<li><span class=\"articledate\">5-14-09<\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/cms\/2009\/05\/14\/lauraroseknowvenue\/\"> Know Your Venue, Style &amp; the Savvy Performance Artist<\/a> <span class=\"articleauthor\">by Laura Rose<\/span><br \/>Personally, I believe that to pull off something dangerously edgy and thoughtfully shocking (while still providing entertainment) you might need to offer them something as well. Something like, oh, say\u2026skill! <\/li>\n<li><b>5-5-05 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/art30\/carnivalpanel.htm\">Initiating Dance Dialogue: Current Trends, The Panel Discussion at Carnivals of Stars Festival<\/a>, <\/b><span class=\"articleauthor\">transcribed from video by Andrea,<\/span><br \/>\nPanel members included: Heather as moderator, Monica Berini, Shira, Barbara Bolan, Amina Goodyear, Debbie Lammam.<\/li>\n<li><b>6-21-01 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/articles13\/CitiCenter.htm\">Alice is Alive and Well in Oakland, California!<\/a><\/b> <b>by Bobbie Giarratana<\/b> <br \/>\nDuring the auditions, there was an ongoing dialogue among the panelists concerning guidelines for <br \/>\nfestival performances; cultural accuracy vs. artistic expression became an issue.<\/li>\n<li><span class=\"articledate\">5-18-07<\/span> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/art40\/Torontopg1.htm\">A Report on the First International Bellydance Conference of Canada Part One- Lectures, Workshops, Panel Discussions<\/a><span class=\"articleauthor\"> by Diane Adams Photos by Lynette<\/span><br \/>\nApril 18-22, 2007 Toronto, Ontario. Hosted by Yasmina Ramzy of Arabesque Academy in Toronto, Ontario, Canada, this International Bellydance Conference of Canada, the first ever on the Canadian dance scene, proved to be one of the top dance experiences in this reviewer&#8217;s 30-year career. <\/li>\n<li><span class=\"articledate\">2-13-07<\/span> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/art38\/COSpanel.htm\">Sunday Morning Panel Discussion at Carnival of Stars, November 11, 2007<\/a> <span class=\"articleauthor\">Transcribed from video by Allyson<\/span><br \/>Panel members discussed Fusion in Belly Dance. Members included: Jihan Jamal, Shareen El Safy, Dahlena, Debbie Lammam, Amina Goodyear, and Edwina Nearing<\/li>\n<li><span class=\"articledate\">8-30-10<\/span> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/newsgraphics\/ComKaleidoscope.htm\">SF Mecca Immersion 2009 Video report part 2: Glimpsesof Dances<\/a> <span class=\"articleauthor\">on the Community Kaleidoscope<\/span><br \/>\nOn August 1, 2009 The SF Mecca Immersion held their Saturday Night Review at Broadway Studios in North Beach, San Francisco, CA. Performers include: Carolena Nericcio and FCBD, Jill Parker, Deb Rubin, Zoe Jakes, Kami Liddle, Fredrique, Cera Buyer, Kristina, Sister Kate. <\/li>\n<li><span class=\"articledate\">8-27-10<\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/cms\/2010\/08\/27\/lynette-harper-identity-bellydance\/\"> Identity Through Bellydance:An Arab Descendant&#8217;s Viewpoint<\/a><span class=\"articleauthor\"> by Lynette Harper PhD<\/span><br \/>\nWhile some Arab women turn instead to ballet and western contemporary dance, others, like me, have embraced belly dance genres as a way to connect with our cultural heritage\u2013only to disappear behind another veil, because Arab women dance artists in Canada are obscured within a huge belly dance community. <\/li>\n<li><span class=\"articledate\">8-26-10 <\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/archives\/musicalinstrumentlibrary.htm#Tina\">Musical Instrument Tour Video with Tina Chancey<\/a><br \/>\nDirector of  Hesperus.org, Tina takes a moment from the camp\u2019s busy schedule to tell us the difference characteristics of this style violin from one we normally see. She touches on the different posture used to play and also why she, a professional player  of \u201cEarly music\u201d is interested in how Arab music and style relates to what she normally plays. Footage captured in August 2008, at the Mendocino Woodlands, Middle Eastern Music and Dance Camp. <\/li>\n<li><span class=\"articledate\">8-25-10 <\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/cms\/2010\/08\/25\/najia-towline-student-infighting\/\">Letting Go of the Towline, Surviving Dance Conflict!<\/a><span class=\"articleauthor\"> by Najia Marlyz<\/span><br \/>Still, even though our dance puts us into contact with beloved friends and creative people who bring us continual joy and renewal, Belly dance is also a powerful magnet for some people with serious mental and emotional problems beyond the scope of dance<\/li>\n<li><span class=\"articledate\">8-24-10<\/span> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/cms\/2010\/08\/24\/roza-ahlan-wa-sahlan-festival-2010\/\">The Festival That Never Sleeps, The  Costumers at the 2010 Ahlan Wa Sahlan Festival<\/a><span class=\"articleauthor\"> by Roza<\/span><br \/>\nThere was one thing they all had in common: the most creative, cutting edge, couture related costumes! Egyptians have been making costumes for (possibly) thousands of years, and since Belly dance goes back 5,000 years; why not? They know how it should fit the body, move with the lines and motion, and creative geographic designs are, of course, a Middle Eastern staple. Here in Egypt, all costumes are handmade, one of a kind.  The majority of these businesses are family owned, and it\u2019s nice to know costume purchases are helping people in Egypt maintain both this craft and artistic skill and their families. <\/li>\n<\/ul><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Coining a new label often results in reconsidering the terms of &#8220;traditional&#8221; belly dance. 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