{"id":4512,"date":"2012-10-14T17:41:02","date_gmt":"2012-10-15T00:41:02","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/cms\/?p=4512"},"modified":"2012-10-17T14:59:59","modified_gmt":"2012-10-17T21:59:59","slug":"kajira-chuck-interviews-appropriation-freedom","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/cms\/2012\/10\/14\/kajira-chuck-interviews-appropriation-freedom\/","title":{"rendered":"Kajira &amp; Chuck Interviews"},"content":{"rendered":"<h2>Cultural Appropriation &amp; Artistic Freedom<\/h2>\n<h3>Videos Interviews by <a href=\"\/aboutuspages\/Lynette.html\">Lynette Harris<\/a><br \/>\n<span class=\"footnotes\">posted October 14, 2012<br \/>\nScroll down for newest video<\/span><\/h3>\n<p><span class=\"artist\"><a href=\"\/aboutuspages\/kajirad.htm\">Kajira<\/a><\/span> and her husband, <span class=\"artist\">Chuck,<\/span> are well-known individuals in our community. Kajira started the first festival for tribal style belly dance called &quot;Tribal Fest&quot;. She also wrote a book called &quot;Tribal Bible&quot;. <a href=\"http:\/\/gildedserpent.com\/articles21\/shelleyreviewstribalbible.htm\" target=\"_blank\">We have a review of this book by Shelley  &quot;Yasmela&quot; Muzzy here<\/a>. One of the common issues that the community has had with Kajira&#8217;s philosophy and with tribal dance in general is with the issue of cultural appropriation. In this series of videos we discuss different issues and how Kajira feels about them. This is the passage from her book that I asked her to read on camera, and then we discussed different points.<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>&quot;Remember that this  is a dance of OURS. Our very own American Style Bellydance! Even though this  style is not the first American style of bellydance, this is perhaps the first  one that is unapologetic about that fact. We celebrate this fact. We love this aspect  of our dance! This makes it a form that we can relate to in every way as  American people. We don&#8217;t have to adopt or support another culture&#8217;s moral or  religious standards if they are not comfortable for us personally. We don&#8217;t  have to buy into any political agenda. We don&#8217;t have to feel bad because we&#8217;re  not of Mediterranean descent, olive skinned, or don&#8217;t speak another language. We  don&#8217;t need to feel as if we should hide our tattoos or body art for fear of  offending someone else. We can choose our reasons for dancing and our venues  and occasions. In short, we get to make up the rules as we go.&quot;<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>The first video here is an introduction to what Kajira and Chuck are doing now and their recent move back from Maui. The next videos will begin the discussion. Please add your thoughts and questions below in the comments section. It maybe helpful to reference which video or even the time stampof the video you are discussing in your comment.<\/p>\n<table width=\"560\" border=\"5\" align=\"center\" cellpadding=\"5\" cellspacing=\"5\" class=\"video\">\n<tr>\n<td><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" src=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/lMxDbeHY-lg\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<p class=\"aligncenter\">Part 2: We begin our discussion by reading the above quote and discussing using the term belly dance and American Tribal Style. Kajira describes being ostracized because of her tattoos and the artistic freedom of not having to be tied to Middle Eastern traditions.<\/p>\n<table width=\"560\" border=\"5\" align=\"center\" cellpadding=\"5\" cellspacing=\"5\" class=\"video\">\n<tr>\n<td><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" src=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/d5cHeGVEde8\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<p>Part 3: Not MED, Misappropriation of the Rom culture, Ostracizing of Tribal. Find reference in Tribal Bible for time stamp 2:30. We found it-  Page 215 at the top, &quot;The parallels between  the struggle of the Roma and that of bellydancers is undeniable.&nbsp; Both  groups are fighting to gain respect and move away from social prejudice.&quot;&nbsp;This point is addressed in the review of the book <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/articles21\/shelleyreviewstribalbible.htm\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<table width=\"560\" border=\"5\" align=\"center\" cellpadding=\"5\" cellspacing=\"5\" class=\"video\">\n<tr>\n<td><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" src=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/NZNomMRr5Q8\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<p>Part 4: The Rise of Tribal Fusion. New terms- Spontaneous Group Improvisation, International or Improvisation Tribal Style.  &quot;Tribal Fest chronicles the rise of Tribal Fusion.&quot; Tribaret. No codification in our dances. Big difference betweem Tribal Fusion and Cabaret&#8211; Isolations, torso, arm movements. Kajira became certified in Rachel Brice&#8217;s format. ATS is a subset of Spontanteous Group Improv. <\/p>\n<table width=\"560\" border=\"5\" align=\"center\" cellpadding=\"5\" cellspacing=\"5\" class=\"video\">\n<tr>\n<td><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" src=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/kpPfMy5WdxE\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<p>Part 5: Using the Term &#8220;Tribal&#8221;, The Modern Primitive Movement. Artists will fuse anything which is ok. What if we said &#8220;American Style Flamenco&#8221;? <a href=\"\/aboutuspages\/morocco.htm\">Morocco<\/a> made this name up. Middle Eastern people get a feeling of &#8220;home&#8221; when they see tribal style. This is because we use authentic textiles and don&#8217;t use Hollywood fantasy. Doesn&#8217;t American Tribal sound like Native American? Modern Primitive Movement included tattoos, piercings, colored hair, alternative lifestyles. The hippy movement started the look of anything exotic being cool. Salimpour&#8230;<\/p>\n<table width=\"560\" border=\"5\" align=\"center\" cellpadding=\"5\" cellspacing=\"5\" class=\"video\">\n<tr>\n<td><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" src=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/RVkCmtg_ueo\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<p>Part 6: Creating a Separate Community, Burlesque?<br \/>\nKajira believes that the Tribal community is bigger and more successful than the rest of the belly dance community. &#8220;We wish we could be accepted as a sister dancer form&#8230; As<a href=\"\/aboutuspages\/artemismourat.htm\"> Artemis<\/a> said, if you don&#8217;t like it, you don&#8217;t have to look.&#8221; Burlesque is a separate art form. <\/p>\n<table width=\"560\" border=\"5\" align=\"center\" cellpadding=\"5\" cellspacing=\"5\" class=\"video\">\n<tr>\n<td><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" src=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/ZR3TrcrFlWI\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<p>Part 7: Belly Dance and Islam<\/p>\n<table width=\"560\" border=\"5\" align=\"center\" cellpadding=\"5\" cellspacing=\"5\" class=\"video\">\n<tr>\n<td class=\"whitetext\">Coming soon!<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<table width=\"120\" border=\"0\" cellspacing=\"5\" cellpadding=\"5\">\n<tr>\n<td><iframe src=\"http:\/\/rcm.amazon.com\/e\/cm?t=thegildedserpent&#038;o=1&#038;p=8&#038;l=as1&#038;asins=0972848606&#038;ref=tf_til&#038;fc1=000000&#038;IS2=1&#038;lt1=_blank&#038;m=amazon&#038;lc1=0000FF&#038;bc1=000000&#038;bg1=FDE1BB&#038;f=ifr\" style=\"width:120px;height:240px;\" scrolling=\"no\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" frameborder=\"0\"><\/iframe>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h5>Resources:<\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li>\n<h6>Author&#8217;s bio page<\/h6>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/graphics\/acommentbox.jpg\" alt=\"use the comment box\" align=\"right\" \/><\/p>\n<div class=\"ready4more\">\n<p>Have a comment? Use or comment section at the bottom of this page or <a href=\"mailto:editor@gildedserpent.com\">Send us a letter!<\/a> <br \/>\nCheck the &quot;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/let2ed.htm\">Letters to the Editor<\/a>&quot; for other possible viewpoints!<\/p>\n<p>Ready for more?<\/p>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<p>\t\t\t<!--end ready4more --><\/p>\n<div class=\"articlelist\">\n<ul>\n<li><span class=\"articledate\">5-21-03<\/span> <a class=\"articlelink\" href=\"http:\/\/gildedserpent.com\/articles21\/shelleyreviewstribalbible.htm\">Tribal Bible Reviewed<\/a> <span class=\"articleauthor\">by Shelley Muzzy\/Yasmela<\/span><br \/>\nAnd I suppose to some dancers, it is a way of life. There is repeated emphasis placed on the concepts of bonding, healing, empowering, and connecting throughout the book. From the sound of it, American women are desperate to connect, to be part of a tribe, to belong.<\/li>\n<li><span class=\"articledate\">6-18-12<\/span> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/cms\/2012\/06\/18\/yasmela-ibcc-2012-toronto\/\" class=\"articlelink\">Drawing Together: Discussion, Discoveries, Diversity, IBCC 2012: International Bellydance Conference of Canada<\/a> <span class=\"articleauthor\">by Yasmela (Shelley Muzzy)<\/span><br \/>\nI made some unexpected discoveries about our dance and my place in it. I was aware of how far the dance has come since I started out in 1972, how much it has changed and how much it is changing still. I finally put the whole tribal\/fusion dilemma into a place in which I feel comfortable. So much of what holds me back from accepting change is fear, fear that what I know will change and will no longer be acceptable.<\/li>\n<li><span class=\"articledate\">6-13-07<\/span> <a class=\"articlelink\" href=\"http:\/\/gildedserpent.com\/art40\/ShelleySerpent.htm\"> Le Serpent Rouge Reviewed<\/a> <span class=\"articleauthor\">by Yasmela<\/span><br \/>\nThe blending of theater and dance was really outstanding with broad comedy moving seamlessly into dance. <\/li>\n<li><span class=\"articledate\">6-28-08<\/span> <a class=\"articlelink\" href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/art44\/tribfest.htm\">Tribal Fest 2008, Saturday May,17 2008, Sebastopol, CA<\/a> <span class=\"articleauthor\">photos and video by Lynette<\/span><br \/>\nEvent Produced by BlackSheep BellyDance and held in the Sebastolpol Community Center, photos and performance clips of Hahbi&#8217;Ru, Unmata, Sexy Scallywags, Romka, Tempest, Clandestine, Titanya, RockRose, Natium, Sabrina<\/li>\n<li><span class=\"articledate\">6-2-06<\/span> <a class=\"articlelink\" href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/art36\/SusiephotosTribalfest06.htm\">Tribal Fest 2006, May 19 in Sebastopol <\/a> <span class=\"articleauthor\">photos by Susie Poulelis<\/span><br \/>\nPerformances from Saturday late afternoon including: BlackSheep, Sashi, InFusion&#8230;<\/li>\n<li><span class=\"articledate\">6-10-03<\/span> <a class=\"articlelink\" href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/articles22\/trbiefest3.htm\">Tribal Fest 3 photos <\/a> <span class=\"articleauthor\">by Lynette<\/span><br \/>Event produced by Ellen Cruz and Kajira, held May 17 and 18, 2003, in Sebastopol, CA <\/li>\n<li><span class=\"articledate\">7-18-03<\/span> <a class=\"articlelink\" href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/articles22\/shahanasacred.htm\">The Sacred Surprise of Tribal Fest 3<\/a> <span class=\"articleauthor\">by Shahana Cartahi<\/span><br \/>\nHowever, I now understand, in retrospect, that I had been really drawn to Tribal Fest 3 for another reason. <\/li>\n<li><span class=\"articledate\">1-18-11<\/span> <a class=\"articlelink\" href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/cms\/2011\/01\/18\/paola-croatia-split-tribal-fest\/\">Europe&#8217;s Newest Dance Destinataion, Split Tribal Festival in Croatia<\/a> <span class=\"articleauthor\">by Paola, Photos by Marin Culic and Dunja Cuk Podolski<\/span><br \/>\nIt&#8217;s like an Italy that one can actually afford, due to the fact that it is not yet an European Union country,  and therefore not subject to the massive cost of living spikes of EU member nations.<\/li>\n<li><span class=\"articledate\">5-26-06<\/span> <a class=\"articlelink\" href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/art36\/Sashiwarning.htm\">Sashi &#8211; Kabob<\/a> <span class=\"articleauthor\">by Lynette, <em>Warning, possibly disturbing graphics!<\/em><\/span><br \/>\nThe punctures appear to go under the skin into the subcutaneous fat layer and not through muscle tissue. <\/li>\n<li><span class=\"articledate\">6-26-06<\/span> <a class=\"articlelink\" href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/art36\/SashiResponse.htm\">The Spirit of the Dance: A Response to the Criticism of my Tribal Fest 2006 &#8220;Pierced Wings&#8221; Performance<\/a> <span class=\"articleauthor\">by Sashi <\/span><br \/>\nI was originally hesitant to write this article regarding my Tribal Fest 2006 &#8220;Pierced Wings&#8221; performance as I personally believe that a performance should not have to be explained by the artist, rather it should rely on what it evokes in others. <\/li>\n<li><span class=\"articledate\">6-9-06<\/span> <a class=\"articlelink\" href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/art36\/BarbGcontroversy.htm\">Weird Rituals and Beyond: Exploring Current Controversies in Middle Eastern Dance<\/a> <span class=\"articleauthor\">by Barbara Grant<\/span><br \/>\nIf you are like me, (I know that many are not) you first responded viscerally and negatively to both situations. Then, as the shock wore off, perhaps you tried to make sense of it all. <\/li>\n<li><span class=\"articledate\">8-7-12<\/span> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/cms\/2012\/08\/07\/paola-balkanic-eruption\/\/\" class=\"articlelink\">Balkanic Eruption, Fiery Fusion Flavors for Oriental, Tribal, and Gypsy Dance!<\/a> <span class=\"articleauthor\">by Paola Blanton<\/span><br \/>\nThe Balkan spirit brings Mediterranean fire to Slavic earthiness to Byzantine mystery.  Balkan music and dance weaves these elements together in the strong and purposeful rhythms and steps of the circles<\/li>\n<li><span class=\"articledate\">6-26-12 <\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/newsgraphics\/ComKaleidoscope2012a.html#pf2\" class=\"articlelink\">Video Interview with Princess Farhana and Surreyya, Part 2<\/a><span class=\"articleauthor\"> on the Community Kaleidoscope.<\/span><br \/>\nThis series of interviews was filmed April 26, 2012. Surreyya and Princess Farhana came to the Gilded Serpent office for a visit. This part discusses current trends in our community involving the crossover between  cabaret and tribal.<\/li>\n<li><span class=\"articledate\">4-16-10<\/span> <a class=\"articlelink\" href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/cms\/2010\/04\/16\/kristina-brad-tribal-belly-dance\/\">Tribal Belly Dance Matures into its Prime, It All Unfolds at L&#8217;Amour de la Danse<\/a> <span class=\"articleauthor\">Review by Kristina, Photos by Brad Dosland<\/span><br \/>\nAlthough the show was not intended to be a Tribal show, because the Bay Area is the cradle of Tribal style, the line-up did a marvelous job of presenting this genre&#8217;s rich variety. <\/li>\n<li><span class=\"articledate\">5-18-07<\/span> <a class=\"articlelink\" href=\"http:\/\/gildedserpent.com\/art39\/SierraBDSS.htm\">An Evening with The American Bellydance Superstars<\/a>, <span class=\"articleauthor\">Reviewed by Sierra <\/span><br \/>\nMarin Civic Auditorium, March 3, 2007. &quot;Even though the dancing from Egyptian cabaret to tribal and venues in between is incredibly bold, excellent in stylizing and format&#8230; it truly is an American tableau of how we represent this art.&quot;<\/li>\n<li><span class=\"articledate\">5-15-07<\/span> <a class=\"articlelink\" href=\"http:\/\/gildedserpent.com\/art40\/EleydaTTDheather.htm\">Tribal Throwdown Photos and Workshop Review for Heather Stants&#8217; &#8220;Appetite for Deconstruction: Urban Tribal Style<\/a>&#8221; <span class=\"articleauthor\">Review by Eleyda Photos by Brad<\/span><br \/>\nMarch 17, 2007 Live Oak Center in Berkeley. Heather&#8217;s task was to transmit that fusion thought in the workshop. She did an excellent job.<\/li>\n<li><span class=\"articledate\">8-17-10<\/span> <a class=\"articlelink\" href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/cms\/2010\/08\/17\/davina-reviews-tribal-videos-today\/\">Tribal Videos Today, Tribal Fusions, Volume 2 from Bellydance Superstars Tales of Desire from Hollywood Music<\/a> <span class=\"articleauthor\">Reviewed by Davina<\/span><br \/>\nIt&#8217;s my belief, that as dancers, it&#8217;s good to keep up with what&#8217;s happening within the greater dance community, even if it doesn&#8217;t suit our taste or style.  It&#8217;s especially important for dance instructors to recognize who the industry leaders are.  It doesn&#8217;t matter if it&#8217;s Egyptian Raks Sharki or Flamenco\/Gypsy\/Zambra Mora or in this case, Tribal Fusion\u2013knowing who is the current cr\u00e8me-de-la-cr\u00e8me will give you a stronger knowledge base from which to teach your students.  Investing in one or two high-quality professionally made Tribal DVDs will add breadth to a dancers video collection.<\/li>\n<li><span class=\"articledate\">4-3-06<\/span> <a class=\"articlelink\" href=\"http:\/\/gildedserpent.com\/art35\/Firestonebalkanbrice.htm\">Rachel Brice Goes Balkan: Pogonometric Revue Reviewed<\/a> <span class=\"articleauthor\">by: Rebecca Firestone, Photos by Brad Dosland<\/span><br \/>\nSunday, March 12, 2006, CELLspace, 2050 Bryant St., San Francisco, Cost: $15 and worth every penny<\/li>\n<li><span class=\"articledate\">5-30-08<\/span> <a class=\"articlelink\" href=\"http:\/\/gildedserpent.com\/art44\/rebfiregothdvds.htm\"> Welcome to the Gothla! Dancing Along the Sulk Road Review of 3 DVDs<\/a> <span class=\"articleauthor\">by Rebecca Firestone<\/span><br \/>\nThe costumes are fabulous. It&#8217;s almost like&#8212;who needs all that dance technique if you&#8217;re wearing an enormous leather headdress that makes you look like an alien refugee from Star Wars? Tempest&#8217;s approach in particular is a painterly one, not surprising from a student of the Rhode Island School of Design. <\/li>\n<li><span class=\"articledate\">11-29-07<\/span> <a class=\"articlelink\" href=\"http:\/\/gildedserpent.com\/art42\/rebfire3tribal.htm\"> Tribal: Fusion, Bedouin, What&#8217;s the Difference? 4 DVDs reviewed and compared<\/a> <span class=\"articleauthor\">by Rebecca Firestone<\/span><br \/>\nWhen I see a dancer I really like, I want to *be* her, or him, right at that moment. My heart leaps at the music and then leaps again when I see what they&#8217;re doing. With this one, I was interested, but not that engaged.<\/li>\n<\/ul><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Cultural Appropriation &amp; Artistic Freedom Videos Interviews by Lynette Harris posted October 14, 2012 Scroll down for newest video Kajira and her husband, Chuck, are well-known individuals in our community. Kajira started the first festival for tribal style belly dance called &quot;Tribal Fest&quot;. She also wrote a book called &quot;Tribal Bible&quot;. 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