{"id":718,"date":"2009-08-16T21:18:26","date_gmt":"2009-08-17T04:18:26","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/cms\/?p=718"},"modified":"2012-08-16T13:24:25","modified_gmt":"2012-08-16T20:24:25","slug":"tonyachallenging","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/cms\/2009\/08\/16\/tonyachallenging\/","title":{"rendered":"Challenging Hypocrisy"},"content":{"rendered":"<h2> A Response to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/aboutuspages\/MilesCopeland.htm\">Miles Copeland<\/a>&#8216;s Article<\/h2>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/art48\/graphics48\/Tonyatheboss.jpg\" alt=\"Tonya directs the competion\" width=\"300\" height=\"418\" align=\"right\" \/><\/p>\n<h3>by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/aboutuspages\/tonya.html\">Tonya Chianis<\/a><br \/>\n<span class=\"footnotes\">posted August 16, 2009<\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Since you chose to include us in your negative and most hypocritical <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/cms\/2009\/07\/11\/milescerts\/\">article published in the Gilded Serpent<\/a>, we feel we must respond, although in reality dignifying a response to ego and  hypocrisy is seldom worth the trouble.\u00a0 However, we will do so for the sake of clarity and for the sake of all legitimate and worthwhile competitions including the Olympics.\t<\/p>\n<p> <span class=\"sectiontitle\">Growth of Belly Dance Competitions<\/span><br \/> Yes more and more people are getting into the &quot;Belly Dance Act,&quot; but isn&#8217;t that the way of the world?\u00a0 Whenever anything is successful, people everywhere always jump on the bandwagon, some not knowing how incredibly expensive events can be and others with ample resources who spend it foolishly and vainly.<\/p>\n<p> Ever since &quot;Dancing with the Stars&quot; started on TV, competitions focusing on every aspect of life have become the norm.\u00a0 People who are so Hollywood conscious immediately try to emulate these events, some with success and others without.\u00a0 People don&#8217;t realize how incredibly expensive and difficult it is to produce a fair and well-run competition.\u00a0 When you have spent as many years creating an event such as the <span class=\"company\">Belly Dancer of the Universe Competition<\/span> you will know how difficult it is to keep testing your own creativity to come up with new and fair ideas &#8211; only to find someone has taken all your hard work and effort to start their own project.<\/p>\n<p class=\"highlight\"> One can only look to the positive and appreciate that we are\tin a wonderful country that allows free enterprise.\u00a0 The ethical way has been to promote one&#8217;s own competition but not to degrade someone else&#8217;s.<\/p>\n<p> You, a veritable newcomer to the Belly Dance world, have completely implied that your little competition is the only fair one around, because you offer money to the teachers for further dance lessons.\u00a0 Where do you think prize money to the winners of a competition goes?\u00a0 At least the winner of ours and other competitions has the right to use their winnings as they see fit, and if they choose to spend it on more dance education all the more power to them.\u00a0 But, if someone has a family crisis and that money is needed, how wonderful that they can do their part to help with the money coming from something they have achieved.<\/p>\n<p> <span class=\"sectiontitle\"> DVDs as a Step on a Career Path<\/span><br \/>\n\t \t<span class=\"style1\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/art48\/graphics48\/tonyascontest.jpg\" alt=\"A troupe on Stage at BDUC09\" width=\"299\" height=\"205\" align=\"left\" \/><\/span>Presenting the winner of a competition in a DVD or even someone who is trying to promote their own DVD is a wonderful thing.\u00a0If it is poor quality and people don&#8217;t like it they won&#8217;t watch it.\u00a0But if it is good, the people watching can learn great things.\u00a0Some of our greatest treasures are the videos of our vintage dancers.\u00a0The quality isn&#8217;t good on many but they&#8217;re worth their weight in gold and they are most always viewed as study tools or as cultural enrichment.\u00a0 Also, do you really expect people to believe that you give your dancers editing rights or quality control as you say you do?\u00a0\u00a0You are the quality control you speak of, and I&#8217;m sure your DVD&#8217;s are fine, but you wouldn&#8217;t stop a full production on a DVD if a dancer didn&#8217;t like the way she looked.\u00a0 It wouldn&#8217;t be cost effective.\u00a0DVD&#8217;s are almost always a great source of pride to dancers and help many dancers to become known, get work and provide education to other dancers.\u00a0 Yes, it&#8217;s always hard financially to make a profit with\tso many others promoting DVD&#8217;s and competitions, but at least as you have stated, you have money.\u00a0 Others are happy to make enough to keep going and it is almost always a labor of love.<\/p>\n<p>You claim that trying to compete in the marketing of dancers already on DVD&#8217;s is not worthwhile.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"highlight\">A popular dancer has her own following and people who love her will continue to buy her DVD&#8217;s regardless of how much exposure she has had.<\/p>\n<p> Just like movie stars; however, some movie stars have more longevity and can keep going through the different stages of their lives.\u00a0 For a dancer, it is quite different.\u00a0 A popular dancer has a great gift to give to the marketer of her product, and it&#8217;s the gift of her ability to make people want to see her at that time in her life.<\/p>\n<p> Your concept is to promote new (young) talent.\u00a0 This is nothing new.\u00a0 Talent shows have gone on for ever and of course the fresh (new) dancer on the scene is always exciting.\u00a0 But because she is new to you doesn&#8217;t mean she hasn&#8217;t been a professional for a very long time.\u00a0 You are just another stepping stone toward her evolution in dance. You do the same thing competitions do, but you have the money to take them on the performance trail (should they want to), and that is really what it is all about.<\/p>\n<p> <img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/art48\/graphics48\/TAtlantisjudges.jpg\" alt=\"Atlantis talks with the judges of one of the categories\" width=\"300\" height=\"211\" align=\"right\" \/>There are not a lot of great dancers that can handle the kind of life style you provide for the Super Stars.\u00a0 Also not many really want to tour due to being true to their multiple responsibilities.\u00a0 Many promoters feed on their talent, believing that because they are young they are also ignorant and won&#8217;t complain.\u00a0 The other side of the coin is that once a dancer becomes popular, her price goes up\u00a0 along with her demands, and sooner or later she evolves into the next adventure in her life and says goodbye to the old.\u00a0 In many cases this is a wise thing for them to do, for many promoters of new and young talent want them in the first place because they are beautiful, young and talented and sooner or later as they grow older, and a few pounds heavier, they are let go and replaced with the new young fresh talent they got from an audition or a Competition!<\/p>\n<p> <span class=\"sectiontitle\">Competition Participation as a Step on a Career Path<\/span><br \/>\n\t \t\t<span class=\"style1\">You<\/span> derided winning a Competition as a way to hype a performer&#8217;s career&#8230;why should all the wonderful dancers (that are not interested or can&#8217;t be a SuperStar) not be given opportunities to do their part to bring great good to the dance community?\u00a0They have this occasion to display\u00a0 their talents and\u00a0 sportsmanship, as well as build their self-esteem and launch themselves into another facet in their careers.\u00a0 You also state that the worst judges of dancers are other dancers.\u00a0 This comment is pathetic and hypocritical. The judging panel of The Belly Dancer of the Universe is comprised of many of the greatest dancers of our time.\u00a0There are no dancers more qualified than <span class=\"artist\">Sahra Saeeda,<a href=\"..\/aboutuspages\/HelenaVlahos.html\"> Helena Vlahos<\/a>, Aisha Ali, Angelika Nemeth, <a href=\"..\/aboutuspages\/amina.htm\">Amina Goodyear<\/a><\/span>, and<span class=\"artist\"><a href=\"..\/aboutuspages\/MartaSchill.htm\"> Marta Schill<\/a><\/span>,<br \/>\n\t \t(each to their own style), to name a few, who are capable of having the knowledge necessary to judge.\u00a0 Who would you have Judge?\u00a0 Sorry, you are entitled to an opinion, but you are not judging material.\u00a0 You haven&#8217;t paid your dues as a dancer.\u00a0You are a promoter.\u00a0Your shows are good because of the dancers in them and again so many Super Stars have been former competition winners.\u00a0They were also all professional dancers at the time they competed.\u00a0 I&#8217;m sure you will find all the competitors in the major categories in competitions, were and are Professional dancers.\u00a0 How insulting can you be to the dance communities and your very own Super Stars.\u00a0 <\/p>\n<p class=\"highlight\">Most everyone that has ever won the Belly Dancer of the Universe competition has been a professional dancer, because we designed our competition to be different from others and it&#8217;s quite difficult to meet many of the requirements.\u00a0 Also, for those of you who are not aware, we never judge our own competition.\u00a0 That&#8217;s what our great judging panel is for.<\/p>\n<p> <img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/art48\/graphics48\/TmilesSahraBDUC09.jpg\" alt=\"Miles and Sahra talk while at BDUC09\" width=\"300\" height=\"220\" align=\"left\" \/>You complained about dancers from other countries trying to buy trophies.\u00a0 We were approached in the same way and refused the offer, but we have no control over the thinking and ways of other\t \tcultures.\u00a0 This is not the fault of the competition.\u00a0 If one\twere to agree to this, then they could be faulted.\u00a0 People are after all, just people.\u00a0 What if another country were to offer you money to let their representative be a Super Star?\u00a0 Does that make the whole Super Star thing seedy and a complete Joke?\u00a0 Competitions are for dancers in the beginning, intermediate _and_ final stages of their careers.\u00a0 It is their choice and I know the preparation that many of these fine dancers have given when entering a competition.\u00a0It can equal the time your people spend rehearsing.\u00a0 They are prepared and they are giving their personal best.\u00a0 Amateur &#8211; only in your mind or the mind of a person not qualified to know the difference.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"sectiontitle\">The Title of Our Competition<\/span><br \/>\n\t \t Yes, we are the Belly Dancer of the Universe Competition.\u00a0Don&#8217;t like our title? Don&#8217;t think our champions should be called that?\u00a0 Well what about Super Stars (that could actually refer to some super gaseous experience in outer space), and those wonderful dancers are certainly more than that.. And whether you think our Champions are not the greatest dancers in the world, and are mere beginners, think again.\u00a0 At that given moment, they are the Best In the Universe!\u00a0 This is the greatest title we felt we could bestow on these courageous, talented and beautiful men and women who give their all in the name of their art. <\/p>\n<p class=\"highlight\">Our promise is to keep doing everything in our power to present a reputable, fair and respectful competition knowing that the Belly Dancer of the Universe Competition is the perfect catalyst to launch the careers of its Champions to the highest of heights.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p> We feel all our contestants are champions because (they put it on the line).\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0May all dancers always continue to be &quot;Wanna Be&#8217;s&quot;  and keep reaching for the brightest star in the universe.\u00a0 It is always (Your Choice)!\u00a0On behalf of the Belly Dancer of the Universe Competitions 20th year, 20l0 Presidents&#8217; Day Weekend, Feb. l3 and l4th &#8211; We wish you well and we thank you for your past sponsorships, but from now on, we choose to be on a different planet.<\/p>\n<div class=\"ready4more\">\n<p>Have a comment? Use or comment section at the bottom of this page or<a href=\"mailto:editor@gildedserpent.com\">Send us a letter!<\/a> <br \/>\nCheck the &quot;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/let2ed.htm\">Letters to the Editor<\/a>&quot; for other possible viewpoints!<\/p>\n<p>Ready for more?<\/p>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<div class=\"articlelist\">\n<ul>\n<li><strong>2-27-09 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/newsgraphics\/ComKaleidoscope.htm#mireya\">Mireya wins at Bellydancer of the Universe Competition 2009<\/a>, Video interview on the CK<br \/>\t7-14-09 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/newsgraphics\/ComKaleidoscope.htm#shereen\">Shereen of Prague wins at Bellydancer of the Universe Competition 2009<\/a> Video on the CK<br \/>\n11-26-08 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/art45\/carlBDUC08photos.htm\">Bellydancer of the Universe Competition 2008,<\/a> photos by Carl Sermon<\/strong><br \/>\nheld in Long Beach, California, on February 18 &amp; 19, 2008, produced by Tonya and Atlantis <\/li>\n<li><strong>11-20-08 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/art45\/miawinningbdou.htm\">Winning Bellydancer of the Universe<\/a> by Mia <\/strong><br \/>\nPuerto Rico is kind of a small island, not that we&#8217;re cut off from the world or anything, but we don&#8217;t have huge hafflas or competitions here. In fact, after about two years of classes and training we have to travel outside our country to keep up with the whirlwind of innovation that is bellydance. <\/li>\n<li><b><strong>12-7-05 <\/strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/art31\/BDOUuniversal.htm\">The Universal Categories of The Belly Dancer of the Universe Competition<\/a>, report by Amy Bonham<br \/>\n<\/b>held February 19-20, 2005 in Long Beach, California, photos by GS staff<\/li>\n<li><b>11-2-05 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/art31\/BDOUremains.htm\">The Divine &amp; Fusion Categories of The Belly Dancer of the Universe Competition<\/a>, report by Amy Bonham<br \/>\n<\/b>held February 19-20, 2005 in Long Beach, California, photos by GS staff <\/li>\n<li><b>10-16-05 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/art31\/BDOUegyptian.htm\">The Egyptian Category 2005 of The Belly Dancer of the Universe Competition<\/a>, report by Amy Bonham<br \/>\n<\/b>held February 19-20, 2005 in Long Beach, California, photos by GS staff <\/li>\n<li><b><strong>7-16-05 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/art31\/BDOUjuniors.htm\">The Junior Division of the The Belly Dancer of the Universe Competition<\/a> photos by Lynette <br \/>\n<\/strong><\/b>Ages 10-17 years, held Saturday, February 19, 2005, in Long Beach, California<\/li>\n<li><b><strong>4-29-05 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/art31\/BDOUblackouttroupe.htm\">Power Failure Halts Troupes &amp; Finals Categories, The Belly Dancer of the Universe Competition,<\/a> Part 1, Sunday Evening, held February 19-20, 2005, in Long Beach, California report by Amy Bonham, photos by GS staff <br \/>\n<\/strong><\/b>Willow Street outside the Grand Willow Street Center was a raging river on Saturday morning and the rain continued through the weekend with intermittent dry spells. <\/li>\n<li><strong>5-13-03 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/articles21\/lunabdoufusion.htm\">Fusion Category added to Belly Dancer of the Universe Competition<\/a> by Luna <br \/>\n<\/strong>&quot;You know, we&#8217;re really making history here&#8230;&quot;<\/li>\n<li><strong>3-12-03 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/articles21\/bdou03main.htm\">Belly Dancer of the Universe Competition 2003 Photo Report<\/a><\/strong> <strong>by Lynette<\/strong><br \/>\nSponsored by Tonya &amp; Atlantis and held in Long Beach, California. Finalists are expected to be able to improvise spontanious choreography!<\/li>\n<li><strong>9-8-08 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/art44\/Carlrqsla.htm\">Carl&#8217;s Raqs LA Photos, Best from the Stage on the Lower Level<\/a>, Photos by Carl Sermon text by Carl Sermon, Ma*Shuqa and Marta Schill<\/strong><br \/>\nheld May 17-18, 2008 Glendale Civic Auditorium, California, produced by Miles Copeland and organized by Marta Schill<\/li>\n<li><b><strong>4-8-08 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/art43\/milesdivorce.htm\">Divorcing Belly Dance From Burlesque<\/a> by Miles Copeland<br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/strong><\/b>As it is traditionally understood, I do not find Burlesque, (meaning nudity-no matter how hard one pretends it does not) amusing or creative in the slightest when it comes to including Belly dance, an art that has suffered too long with such unfortunate associations. I find it completely irresponsible and detrimental.<\/li>\n<li><strong>1-17-07 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/art39\/MilesWhiteGuilt.htm\">Western Dancer&#8217;s Guilt, a Response to Naajidah,<\/a> by Miles Copeland<br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/strong>People have occasionally suggested Arabs would be &#8220;horrified&#8221; by the inclusion of the Tribal style in our show but I can tell you that this style is extremely popular with Middle Easterners who come to our show. <\/li>\n<\/ul><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A Response to Miles Copeland&#8216;s Article by Tonya Chianis posted August 16, 2009 Since you chose to include us in your negative and most hypocritical article published in the Gilded Serpent, we feel we must respond, although in reality dignifying a response to ego and hypocrisy is seldom worth the trouble.\u00a0 However, we will do [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":7,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[1],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/cms\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/718"}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/cms\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/cms\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/cms\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/7"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/cms\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=718"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/cms\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/718\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/cms\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=718"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/cms\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=718"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.gildedserpent.com\/cms\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=718"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}